EP35 Understanding the 70% Rule: A Guide to Evaluating Your Flip’s Profit Potential
Episode Description:
In this episode of Cash4Flippers, we delve deep into the essential 70% Rule—your key to evaluating a property’s profit potential when flipping real estate. Whether you’re a new investor or have some experience under your belt, understanding this critical formula can dramatically enhance your decision-making process. Join us as we break down how to apply this rule effectively, ensuring you make informed offers while maximizing your returns. We’ll also discuss practical strategies for financing your flips, from hard money loans to private funding options. With real-world examples tailored for solo operators and small-scale investors, this episode equips you with the actionable insights you need to confidently tackle your next project. Tune in to discover how mastering the 70% Rule can pave the way for greater profits in your real estate journey.
Speakers:
Host: Troy Walker
Guest: Nina Clark
Transcript (Speaker-Formatted)
Troy: Welcome back to Cash4Flippers. I’m your host, Troy Walker, and today we’re breaking down the 70% Rule so you can price flips with confidence. Joining me is our teammate and underwriting lead, Nina Clarke. Great to have you here. Inside our lending shop, we apply this rule daily on client deals and our own projects, so you’re getting the field version, not theory. We’ll hit the MAO formula, what the thirty percent covers, how financing interacts with the math, and smart pivots when numbers tighten. Stick around for checklist and a path to get deal reviewed before you write offer.
Nina: Thanks for the invite. The 70% Rule is a guardrail, not a replacement for a full budget. It says your maximum allowable offer equals seventy percent of the after repair value minus estimated repairs. Put simply: MAO equals ARV times point seven, minus repairs. That thirty percent you’re holding back is not pure profit; it’s designed to absorb everything between closing and resale. Think lender points and interest, taxes, insurance, utilities, permits, staging, title and escrow fees, and agent commissions on the exit. Whatever survives that basket becomes your net profit. The power is speed: in minutes you can decide if a property earns deeper diligence and avoid paying retail because you anchored to ARV.
Troy: That framing is spot on. Let’s ground it with numbers. Say the ARV is three hundred thousand and repairs are fifty thousand. The quick math says MAO equals three hundred thousand times point seven, minus fifty, which lands at one hundred sixty thousand. Now pressure test the profit by layering costs. Suppose you borrow one hundred eighty thousand to cover purchase and rehab, at two points and twelve percent, for six months. Points equal thirty six hundred, interest ten eight hundred. Add taxes, insurance, utilities, permits, say four thousand or so. Closing and title on the buy, two thousand. On resale, six percent to agents is eighteen thousand, plus seller credits and transfer fees, three thousand. If you buy at one sixty, total spend is about two forty eight, leaving fifty two thousand before surprises.
Nina: Scope drives the percentage. On a light cosmetic or wholetail, where you’re cleaning, painting, swapping fixtures, and maybe modest kitchen and bath updates, you can push above seventy percent because timeline and risk are low. I’ll price those at seventy two to seventy five percent minus repairs if days on market are tight and absorption is strong. Contrast that with a full gut, structural work, or additions. Permits, inspections, change orders, and longer holds eat buffer. For those, tighten to sixty to sixty eight percent minus repairs. Example: ARV four hundred thousand with a mechanical overhaul at one hundred twenty thousand. Sixty five percent of ARV is two sixty, minus one twenty equals one forty.
Troy: That range thinking keeps you from forcing a flip into a wholetail box. For wholesalers, the same math applies with one extra step: back into your buyer’s MAO and leave room for your fee. If the buyer’s MAO is one forty based on their rehab and financing, and they want thirty thousand net profit, you should lock property below one thirty five to allow a five to ten thousand assignment, depending on competition. Share your ARV comps, repair scope, and holding assumptions so they trust the numbers. Overprice contract and you’re stealing from their spread; they’ll ghost you. Nail the price and verify scope and you become a repeat source because you protected their margin.
Nina: Getting ARV right is everything. Start with tight comps: within half a mile, same school zone, similar construction, and within ten percent of square footage and lot. Match bed and bath or adjust using local paired sales. Favor the last ninety days; in slow areas stretch to one hundred eighty but weight the freshest. Filter out flips with finishes above your plan. Track days on market and concessions; rising DOM or big seller credits signal softening values. Make line item adjustments for garages, pools, extra baths, and finished basements, and lean conservative when multiple adjustments stack up. Finally, sanity check the appraisal reality: call two listing agents from your comps, ask what drove demand, where buyers pushed back, and whether offers required repairs or credits.
Troy: On repairs, speed plus accuracy wins offers. For lipstick rehabs, a quick cost per square foot works: ten to fifteen dollars a foot for paint, flooring, minor fixtures; twenty to thirty when you add a light kitchen and bath refresh. The moment you touch systems or layout, switch to line items. Price the majors first: roof by square and layers, windows by count, HVAC by tonnage, electrical by panel and circuits, plumbing by fixture and supply lines, foundation by linear feet and method. Then add kitchens and baths by finish level, tile footage, and cabinet count. Include dumpsters, permits, and a punch list. Always add contingency: ten percent for cosmetic, twenty for heavy or older stock. Build contingency into repairs, not into hoped‑for profit margins.
Nina: Price point changes the target. On higher end homes, buyer expectations, inspection sensitivity, and days on market expand risk. Even with cosmetic scope, I often cap at sixty five to sixty eight percent minus repairs because appraisals and punch lists take time. On low priced houses, fixed costs eat more. A six percent commission, title, utilities, and insurance don’t shrink with price, so the thirty percent bucket may be thin. You may need to buy at sixty percent minus repairs to keep a five figure profit. Watch absorption by price band; if two hundred to two fifty flies while three hundred stalls, be aggressive in hot lane and cautious above.
Troy: Let’s connect financing, because it shapes cash to close and speed. Most hard money is ARV based with caps like seventy to seventy five percent of ARV, or purchase and rehab funded to roughly eighty five to ninety percent of cost, subject to a total leverage limit. Know the difference between LTC and LTV: loan to cost funds a slice of your budget; loan to value is capped by the after repair value. Typical terms today are two to three points, ten to twelve percent interest, plus underwriting, doc, and draw fees. Expect to bring closing costs and any gap between loan proceeds and the MAO to the table. When you model the deal, put lender points, interest, and fees into the thirty percent bucket and tie them to a realistic timeline. If your contractor says ten weeks but permits and utility cuts add four, finance for six months, not three. Underwriting loves borrowers who pad time, hit draws, and still clear their minimum profit threshold. Ask about interest reserves and minimum draw requirements too.
Nina: When it’s time to write the offer, lead with math and documentation. Present a clear summary: ARV backed by three tight comps, a repair scope with line items and photos, and a net sheet that shows why your number protects the deal. You’re not lowballing; you’re underwriting. Use contractor bids, inspection findings, sewer scopes, and roof reports to justify adjustments during diligence. If numbers tighten, change the plan instead of forcing it. Wholetail by cleaning, certifying the roof, and listing as is. Assign to a buyer with in‑house crews. If the seller wants retail but allows repairs before close, a novation can work. Sometimes the best decision is to walk and preserve capital and focus.
Troy: Let me underline the traps we see most. One, weak comps: using bigger, newer, or better neighborhoods to justify ARV. If it wouldn’t appraise, don’t invest. Two, repair optimism. Round numbers for “kitchen and bath” without scope become overruns; price components, then add contingency. Three, ignoring selling costs, as if you’ll find a zero commission buyer. Budget the full disposition stack. Four, treating the seventy percent shortcut as the whole underwriting. It’s a screen, not a substitute for a budget and timeline. Before you offer, run a checklist: comps verified and recent, repair scope priced, hold time estimated conservatively, lender terms in writing, minimum profit threshold met, exits considered. Use tools: a deal analyzer, a scope template, and a lender cost calculator you actually use.
Troy: That’s our show. Today we walked the mechanics of the seventy percent rule: the MAO formula, what the thirty percent truly covers, and how to validate profit by layering lender costs, holding costs, and selling costs over a realistic timeline. We compared cosmetic versus heavy rehabs, looked at price band adjustments, and talked through the wholesaler angle. We also covered practical tactics for nailing ARV, scoping repairs, negotiating with documentation, and mapping hard money terms to your deal so you can fund fast without guessing. Your next step is simple: get pre approved with Cash4Flippers, build your analyzer and scope template, and send us your next address for a same day MAO and funding review before you write the offer. You bring disciplined offers; we’ll bring speed and certainty. Until next time, happy hunting. And remember, disciplined underwriting beats aggressive bidding in every market cycle.